Beyond Learning

EAEA’s Podcast Series

Promotional banner for second season of Beyond Learning Podcast, titled: Identities
Artwork by Clémence Garnier, visual facilitator and committed illustrator


On Beyond Learning, we talk to people who are trying to imagine a more sustainable future, and putting their ideas into practice. In the second season, we take a journey to Central and Eastern Europe to explore how learning can foster a sense of belonging in a changing world. From Vienna to Zagreb, Athens and Belgrade, we meet with adult learners, educators, but also filmmakers, migrant and feminist collectives, and researchers who put community-building at the centre of their work. We record our conversations at adult learning and community centres and art performances, in cafes, urban gardens and other community spaces where learning happens and new identities are created.

Join Aleksandra Kozyra and her colleagues from the European Association for the Education of Adults to explore stories of learning, and stories of change. Beyond Learning is produced by EAEA and co-funded by the European Union. Episodes released every other Thursday.

Extra Materials and our Moodle Course

The e-learning course Beyond Learning: Voices of Learners and Educators in Green Transition, includes additional material about the case studies and topics discussed in the podcasts. Find out more here AE-learning.

Promotional visual illustration for the Beyond Learning Podcast second season Identities. First episode titled: A Little Island
Episode 1: A Little Island

What if our space for learning could turn into a living room, a café – or an island?
In the first episode of the new season, we pass by Vienna to begin our exploration of learning, identity and belonging.
We meet with Margit Lindner from the magdas hotel, a social enterprise that supports learners with a refugee background. Margit takes us on a tour of the hotel and tells us what it means to create a safe space, and to run a business that’s focused on people, and not on profit.
We also talk to Alisa Cela-Goldgruber from Verein Piramidops, a community centre that works with migrant women. She shows us around the neighbourhood, and shares how adult learning can create new spaces for exchange between communities, both physical and metaphorical.

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Episode 2: Naming the Nameless

Who makes – and owns – a language? In Linz, we meet with Rubia Salgado, language teacher and co-founder of das kollektiv, a collective of migrant women. As we walk along the Danube, we talk to Rubia about who belongs in public spaces, what it means to be open to change, and why learning about migration can’t be reduced to trying out new dinner recipes. We discuss what grammar and syntax in a language have to do with power and who constructs a language. Rubia also tells us about the benefits of chewing the words – and why poetry can help.

Episode 3: Changing Narratives

It’s time to change the vocabulary,” says one of the guests of this episode. In Budapest, we visit two civil society organisations that challenge existing narratives. We first talk to Teréz Pataki and her colleague from Mira Haz, a community centre that welcomes migrants and refugees. We discuss intercultural learning and why an integration course isn’t a factory. We also meet with Róbert Kepe from the Shelter Foundation, which supports homeless people. Róbert introduces us to the Hungarian Street Paper, where all contributors – no matter their experience or background – have their art published on the same page. In the meantime, we get advice on where to best learn to fly a kite as an adult, and find out why vending machines in Budapest sell books.

Episode 4: Spaces of Encounters, Spaces of Freedom

Who has the power to create public spaces?

We first ask the question to Katarina Popović and Maja Maksimović from the University of Belgrade. We sit down in a kafana in Belgrade to talk about cultural identity, practice dark Eastern European humour, and reflect on the value of a stolen Yugoslavian passport. We also do some experiential learning around the concept of Dionisian socialism.

We then meet with Iva Čukić and Jovana Timotijević the Ministry of Space, a collective that reflects on the future of cities. Iva and Jovana tell us how collective practices can recreate a sense of community, and what it means to fall in love with an abandoned building (relationship status: it’s complicated).

This episode also features discussions about the Serbian model of gentrification, the Turkish approach to slow food, and the German take on nostalgia.

Episode 5: Opening Boxes

Is radio a thing of nostalgia?
In the new episode of our podcast, we revisit the past as we open closets, cupboards and drawers with Maja Maksimovic, our host in Belgrade. While talking about personal memory, we also learn how to make Turkish coffee (and read the future).
We then take a walk in a park with filmmaker Marija Stojnic to discuss “Speak so I can see you”, her documentary about Radio Belgrade. Marija shares with us why radio is an accessible means of learning, and how you can get goosebumps from listening to archives. We also reflect on how to connect with the past without romanticising it.

Episode 6: There Before Me

Who was there before us in our movements? How can we own the narrative of our histories? In the heart of a bustling library and archive in Athens, born through the claims of the Greek feminist movement in the 80s, we meet Irene: an archivist, librarian and feminist. Amidst the books, journals and clippings of the archive, we discuss libraries as sites of collective learning and exploration, where diverse voices converge and histories intertwine. We talk about how libraries and archives are more than just repositories but catalysts for change, documenting movements and revealing untold stories of community learning. In these spaces of gathering and discovery, we see how sharing languages, stories, and demands, bit by bit transcend great narratives and showcase that transformative action is forged day by day, get together by get together, book by book.

Episode 7: Learning Mothers

How many mothers does it take to raise a child? And what does polymaternalism actually mean?

In this episode we take a look at a winterschool course on Feminism and Motherhood at the University of Antwerp. We talk to learners of the course, both of whom are researchers in the fields of motherhood as well as the organiser of the course. We delve into defining the term of polymaternalism and how becoming a mother is a process of learning and discovery. Check out the episode to hear more from Professor Ariadna Ayala Rubio, Dr Gemma McKenzie and Joke Struyf.

Episode 8: Going and Growing

Could tango take over your life? Boris Maidanik, a tango teacher, tells us about his experience of learning to dance tango in his hometown – Buenos Aires, and what it’s like when the whole room stops to a rhythm of a dance. He also shares what migration across different European countries has brought him, and why tango isn’t about learning the steps. We also speak to Ana, a tango learner who reflects on why learning to dance can help you bury an image of yourself – or to reconfirm who you are. In the meantime, we visit a tango practice in Belgrade.

Beyond Learning, Season 1: A Greener Future (2023)

Banner with a blue background, a girl lookin through binoculars with the title "Beyond Learning" at the top.
Artwork by Clémence Garnier, visual facilitator and committed illustrator


If there was a “festival of free time” in your neighbourhood, what would you like to learn there? And what could you teach others? If you wanted to learn how to cycle finally, why would you do it at night? What would happen if you brought activists and local residents together in one wooden village? 

On Beyond Learning, we talk to people trying to imagine a more sustainable world by putting their ideas into practice. We meet with adult learners, educators and community organisers from around Europe to visit urban gardens. To participate in festivals, and witness art projects in the making. We ask them why learning should be at the heart of a greener future? And how it has already shaped their lives and communities. 

EP1: Forever Autonomous

How do we learn from the past to make it to the future?

Wojciech Matejko from the Open Jazdów Partnership shows us around a settlement in Warsaw, Poland which has a unique history, and today houses families and NGOs.

He shares a story of activism, community and adult learning, featuring Soviet imperialism, Finnish wooden houses, Chinese hens, and Japanese dance theatre.

EP2: Perfect Imperfections

What can you see behind a pomegranate?

Clémence Garnier, a Brussels-based illustrator who created the visuals for our podcast, walks us through the steps of her art projects.

As we pick flowers in her local park and take a look into her workspace, Clemence tells us how she learned to draw as an adult, and what doing life drawings taught her about body image.

She also shares the many functions of a walk-in closet, how you can turn curcuma into stars – and why her work is a bit like magic. (We may or may not end up talking about witches.)

EP3: Making Meaning

“The future belongs to all of us,” says Maarten Okkersen at the Museon Omniversum in the Hague.

We talk about how museums can help make sense of the changing world and encourage agency and empathy. We also discuss what interactivity really means, and why sometimes it’s useful to lose the technology.

In the meantime, we visit the museum’s One Planet exhibition, where we find out what our phones are made of and try to save the coral reef.

EP4: Growing

“Vegetables grow here and people grow here,” says one of the employees of Groot Eiland, a social enterprise based in Molenbeek, Brussels.

Together with Patrick de Coster, we meet with instructors and trainees who share their thoughts about the social context in Brussels, vulnerability, and safe spaces for learning. We also take a guess on what the most diverse city in the world is (spoiler: it’s not New York).

In the meantime, we visit an urban farm, a restaurant and an organic shop run by Groot Eiland, and witness a landscaping project in the making.

EP5: Elephant Steps

What could you make out of your mother’s coat?
EAEA’s Raffaela Kihrer goes to her weekly sewing class and talks to her teacher and classmates about their learning experience and motivation. They discuss what it means to get attached to the things that you own – but also to the people in your class – and what the Great British Sewing Bee has got to do with it. In the meantime, Raffaela works on her first sewing challenge.

EP6: Upside Down

What if you could design and build your community space – no matter your background or skills?
In this episode, we meet with Maria Glionna, an architect, educator and learner, who tells us about participatory architecture as a practice of empowerment. We also discuss learning as a way of connecting to your own body, emotions and nature, and Maria’s personal and professional journey: from Italy through the UK to Belgium, and from traditional to community-based architecture.
While talking, we visit a community centre in Brussels, where we take a look into Maria’s workshop and learn how to make a house out of clay (and glitter).

EP7: Women Don’t Cycle

If you cycled from Europe to Tokyo, who would you meet on the way – and what would you learn?

Together with EAEA’s Angeliki Giannakopoulou, we meet with Manon Brulard, a filmmaker who tells us about her documentary “Women Don’t Cycle”. She shares why cycling 13,000 km from Brussels to Tokyo – and then making a film about it – have been a transformative learning experience.

We also talk about the bicycle as a social vehicle for women, the power of community building and claiming public space. We record our conversation during a feminist festival in Brussels, at which we are joined by a cat.

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To find out more about the upcoming podcasts please contact EAEA’s Head of Capacity-Building Aleksandra Kozyra at aleksandra.kozyra [at]